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Collect Information

PART I:  COLLECT INFORMATION

Educational Planning


NOTE:  Unsure if the school/major you're choosing for this assignment is really what you want to do?  DON'T WORRY!  You can definitely change your goals--no one's going to check on you in the future.  We just want you to know HOW to do Ed Planning.  Also, scroll down to "UNSURE ABOUT YOUR MAJOR/SCHOOL?" for more info if you are undecided.  


FOLLOW THESE THREE STEPS TO COLLECT YOUR INFORMATION:

1.  Select your program

2.  Find your list of major courses--what you'll take at SMC

3.  Find your list of GE courses--what to take at SMC.


STEP 1:  SELECT YOUR PROGRAM: select one college or university, AND one major offered at that school for this assignment.  

For your school, you might select:

 

  • Another college or a university for transfer.  This might be:
    • A CSU (California State University) or UC (University of California)
    • A private California college or university
    • An out-of-state college or university

 

  • If you are thinking about another option, please discuss this with your C20 instructor ASAP.

STEP 2: FIND YOUR LIST OF MAJOR COURSES:  What major courses should you take at SMC?

  • For an SMC certificate or Associate's degree, these will be your SMC courses to fulfill your program
  • For transfer, these will be courses you can take at SMC that are EQUIVALENT TO major courses at your future transfer school   
    • Ex.:  Freshman UCLA Psychology majors take Psych 10 at UCLA.  Psych 1 at SMC is equivalent to Psych 10 at UCLA. So, students take Psych 1 at SMC (not Psych 10 at SMC) if they want UCLA Psychology.  
TO FIND YOUR LIST OF MAJOR COURSES, USE ONE  OF THE FOLLOWING: 
  • CSU or UC:
    • Go to the ASSIST website (www.assist.org)
    • Select Santa Monica College in the first drop-down menu
    • Select your transfer school in the next drop-down menu  
    • Select your major
    • The courses in the left column are the majors courses students are taking at the transfer school
    • The courses in the right column are the SMC equivalents--THESE ARE YOUR MAJOR COURSES THAT YOU CAN TAKE AT SMC  
  • A private California college or university or out-of-state university:
    • Option 2: Go directly to the school's website and find your major and the corresponding freshman and sophomore-level major courses (SMC generally offers only freshman/sophomore-level equivalent courses)
      • THEN, consult with an SMC counselor (or someone at the transfer school if possible) for possible SMC equivalent courses*
    • Option 3: SMC Transfer Sheets​.  Select a major, then see if your transfer school and SMC courses to take for your major are listed
    • Option 4: SMC Counselors:
      • ​Transfer/Counseling Complex located on the Main Campus--two options:
        • quick 3-5 minute consultation with a counselor in Express Counseling for initial direction only*
        • A 30-minute appointment with a transfer counselor--call 310-434-4210 for an appointment*
      • SMC Counseling Programs.  You may be part of a Special Program, or you can consult with a counselor in the Career Center or Welcome Center*
      • SMC Online Counseling.  Online inquiries may take 5-7 business days, and they are closed on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays*
    • Option 5: Your Counseling 20 Instructor
      • Some instructors are also counselors and may be able to give you direction

*Researching this information may take multiple contacts and extensive time and effort, so plan accordingly.  Ultimately, the transfer school will determine if courses are equvalent or not.​


STEP 3: FIND YOUR LIST OF GENERAL EDUCATION COURSES:  What GE courses should you take at SMC?

TO FIND YOUR LIST OF GE COURSES, USE THE FOLLOWING: 
    • SMC Department Certificate or Certificate of Achievement You don't do GEs!  A certificate focuses on learning your specialty only.
    • SMC Associate Degree:
      • Click on the link: SMC Associate Degree General Education
      • Select specific courses that will meet the requirements for the different categories, e.g., Anthro 5 for Natural Science.  
      • You CAN "double-count"** the Global Citizenship requirement with another GE category.  You can also "double-count"** any major course as a GE course.
    • CSU Transfer:
      • Use the IGETC or CSU GE pattern​--the CSUs don't care which you use
      • The CSU GE Pattern has more flexibility
        • by taking C20, the number of courses for the IGETC or CSU GE can be exactly the same
      • Click on either the IGETC or CSU GE pattern link.  Select specific courses that will meet the requirements for the different categories, e.g., For Area 1:  Speech 1, English 1 and Bus 32.
      • You CAN "double-count"** the CSU American Hist and Institutions requirements.  You can also "double-count"** any major course as a GE course.  
    • UC Transfer:
      • Use IGETC for MOST majors--see page 1 for exceptions
      • Click on the link.  Select specific courses that will meet the requirements for the different categories, e.g., For Area 3: AHis 72, Music 36 and Film Studies 2 
      • You CAN "double-count"** any major course as a GE course.  You can also "double-count"** the CSU American Hist and Institutions requirements for a CSU transfer 
    • A private California college or university or out-of-state university:  
      • Remember, you want to find the SMC equivalencies for the GE courses--what will you take at SMC?
      • ​The process is essentially the same as above to find the GE courses for private and out-of-state schools  
      • GE can also be called "Core" courses, "Breadth" requirements, or something else.  
        • Option 2: Go directly to the school's website and find your major's GE pattern and the corresponding freshman and sophomore-level courses (SMC generally offers only freshman/sophomore-level equivalent courses)
          • THEN, consult with an SMC counselor (or someone at the transfer school if possible) for possible SMC equivalent courses*
        • Option 3: SMC Counselors:
          • ​Transfer/Counseling Complex located on the Main Campus--two options:
            • quick 3-5 minute consultation with a counselor in Express Counseling for initial direction only*
            • A 30-minute appointment with a transfer counselor--call 310-434-4210 for an appointment*
          • Other SMC Counseling Programs.  You may be part of a Special Program, or you can consult with a counselor in the Career Center or Welcome Center*
          • ​SMC Online Counseling.  Online inquiries may take 5-7 business days, and they are closed on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays*
        • Option 4: Your Counseling 20 Instructor
          • Some instructors are also counselors and may be able to give you direction

    *Researching this information may take multiple contacts and extensive time and effort, so plan accordingly.  Ultimately, the transfer school will determine if courses are equvalent or not.

    **Double-counting means to count ONE course for two different areas.  For example, you can use Psych 1 for the UCLA Psychology major, and you can also use Psych 1 as an IGETC GE.

    When you have finished gathering information, 
    Go to Step 2
    Good work!

    ​***

    UNSURE ABOUT YOUR MAJOR/SCHOOL?  

    For the purposes of this assignment, you MUST select ONE major and ONE school.  

    For your major, try identifying three majors that you might be interested in, then choose ONE for this assignment.  

    • However, don't overstress about picking a major!  Did you know that the major you choose doesn't necessarily determine the career you will choose?
    • Here are three people who all had Psychology as their major, but none have careers in the field of Psychology: Gloria Estefan (singer), Dr. Benjamin Carson (pediatric neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins University), Peter Butterfield (CEO of Kia Motors, America).
    • FYI, here are some resources to help you think about majors:

    Here are some resources on colleges and universities:
    • US Colleges and Universities - From the University of Texas at Austin, universities listed by state
    • CollegeNet - You can search United States colleges and universities by major, location, tuition and other criteria.​

    ***

    QUIZ QUESTIONS:

    1.  On this screen, "Collect Information," what are the two types (lists) of courses that you are looking for to help you complete your Ed Plan?

    A.  General education and electives

    B.  Major courses and minor courses

    C.  General education and major courses

    D.  IGETC and CSU GE

    E.  None of the above--you only need major courses to fill out your Ed Plan

    2.  Robert wants to transfer to a CSU.  What are the two types of general education that he can follow?

    A.  IGETC for UC and IGETC for CSU

    B.  CSU GE and USC GE

    C.  IGETC and CSU GE--but the CSU prefers the IGETC

    D.  IGETC and CSU GE--the CSU doesn't care which you use

    E.  Robert can follow any of the above GE patterns 

    3. T/F:  For this screen, the courses that you are looking for will be SMC courses--courses that you'll take at SMC--NOT courses that you will be taking at your transfer school. 
     

    4.  T/F:  For SOME private schools, the courses that a student can take at SMC may be found at our SMC Transfer Center website.

    5.  Open ended:  What does "double-counting" mean?  Give an example of when you would double-count a course.